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Cllr  Lynne  Hale
Cllr  Yvette  Hopley
Cllr  Tim  Pollard
 

Purley Beeches is NOT being cleared for housing
02/05/2014 09:30:00......Posted by Tim Pollard

At the Sanderstead Residents' Association AGM last night, a number of residents raised concerns over the felling of many mature Beech trees before Easter.

The concerns fall broadly into three areas:

  1. A concern that the trees did not actually need felling
  2. A worry that it was done in order to clear the land for later redevelopment for housing
  3. Annoyance that the trunks and canopy from the trees felled has not been removed.

Dealing with the second of these first, there is absolutely no truth in the rumour that this work is all about clearing the way for a housing development. Purley Beeches is protected in our planning policies and there is no prospect at all of that changing. Certainly the ward councillors would be implacably opposed to any future attempt to build on this land and I can see no prospect of any future council administration seeking to do this.

I won't cover the third of these concerns in this post, as this is covered in earlier blog posts, except to say that we willl maintain the pressure on officers to clear the debris until it is broadly at a level which park users are happy to live with. It is important that some trunks are allowed to slowly decay in situ, as they would in an unmananged woodland, because of the benefits this brings as a habitat for various species. But at the moment, there is too much and it is spoiling park users' enjoyment, and that's not right.

So this brings me on to the first of the residents' concerns - the theory that the trees didn't actually need felling. I am not an arboriculturist and nor would I claim to be an expert on trees - but the council employs people who are, in the team led by Mr Browning. He has recently written to a resident, copying me in, explaining why the signs of decay are not necessarily visible to the naked eye and I reproduce the majority of that letter below. I hope this reassures residents that the works were necessary, although very regretable.

Thank you for coping me into your letter to Cllr Pollard regarding the above.

If I may, I would like to answer some of the concerns that you have raised in this letter;

Firstly, let me assure you that we are as upset as you are to fell these trees. However, the trees were not felled simply because they were over mature. They were felled because they were found to be hazardous.

With respect to yourself, and other people that have raised concerns, signs of a tree being hazardous may not be apparent to the untrained eye ( please see attached notes on Ketzschmaria deusta as an example of a fungal pathogen that can render trees extremely dangerous).

As a land owner we have a clear duty of care and simply cannot ignore trees that we find to be hazardous, especially in an areas such as Purley Beeches, which are both heavily used by the public and surrounded by residential properties. It should be noted that, in recent years, The Royal Parks, The National Trust and Kew have all been involved in court cases as a result of fatalities caused by fallen trees on their land.

The most recent felling is particularly noticeable because Purley Beeches, from an aesthetic viewpoint, is a pale shadow of its former self. Fifty years ago it was a magnificent woodland of mature Beech trees. Unfortunately, though, it was absolutely devastated in the1987 Hurricane and since then we have had to periodically remove trees that have become hazardous.

The problem has been compounded by the fact that the woodland was of a single age class and so there was not an understorey of young trees there to come through and replace the trees that blew over. To answer your question about planting, we have, in fact, already  planted several hundred replacement Beech trees. Unfortunately though, all of these trees have been ravaged by Grey Squirrels and the only long term answer to this problem is to cull all the squirrels from the site which, again, is a very emotive issue for the public.

Ironically, although the park has suffered aesthetically, it now improved ecologically as there is a far greater diversity. Ash, Hazels and other tree species are far more common and there is a greater variety in age structure, dead wood and habitat.  

Whilst understanding the criticism that the recent work has caused, I must point out that notices were put up at the entrances to the park some three weeks before the work started, explaining that we would be carrying out the work and inviting people to contact us if they had any concerns about this work. No one came back to us but, if they had, then we would have been happy to meet them on site, before the work started, and explain why the work was necessary.

Finally, can I say that, as well as managing some 33,000 street trees (one of the highest numbers of street trees in London), and trees in Parks, we also manage some 450 Hectares of woodland.We have active management plans in place for most of these woodlands and are proud to have achieved the high standards of woodland management required to receive Forestry Stewardship Council accreditation and to meet the UKWAS (UK Woodland Assurance Standard) standard.  We have also set up “ Friends of” groups for a lot of the woodlands and our woodland management is widely cited as being best practice both London and U.K wide.

I hope that I have addressed your concerns on this matter but please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any other points that you wish to discuss.

 

For the sake of completeness, I also paste below the excerpt from ‘Principles of tree hazard assessment and management’ referred to in mr Browning's text:

 

The significance of the decay fungus Kretzschmaria deusta (formerly Ustulina deusta): 

Extract from ‘Principles of tree hazard assessment and management’ by David Lonsdale 1999: 

“….U.deusta induces a brittle ceramic-like fracture. This can occur in main stems or root systems, since the fungus is exceptional amongst ascomycetes in being able to grow in the central wood of very large trees. 

Fracture often occurs before an advanced white-rot has developed, so that the fracture surface can be quite hard. 

The seat of the decay within the tree is usually at the stem base, where in some cases the fungus appears to have entered through a wound. In such cases, it can extend 4m or more up the stem, as well as into the roots. It can also enter via the roots, eventually causing windthrow. 

This is a particularly dangerous decay fungus, partly because its fruit bodies are often overlooked, also because of its very common occurrence and wide host range, and finally because of the type of decay that it causes. The brittle fracture associated with this decay often occurs with no warning of incipient failure, and without the compensatory thickening that can occur with fungi which cause selective delignification (e.g. Ganoderma spp.). Except in very advanced cases, this decay cannot be detected with a stress wave timer and may also escape detection by certain kinds of mechanical probe.” 

Other texts: 

K.Weber, C.Mattheck – Manual of wood decays 2003 

F.Schwarze – Fungal strategies of wood decay in trees 2000

 

 
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Sanderstead Memorial Hall - Appeal for Committee Members
16/05/2018 09:48:00.......Posted by Lynne Hale

~~A request from Malcolm Sauders for new Committee Members for Sanderstead Memorial Hall

"You may be aware of Sanderstead Memorial Hall on Purley Oaks Road. It was built as a tribute to the men and women who died or served their country in the First World War.
The hall was opened in June 1922 by Vice Admiral A.F.B. Carpenter VC of Zeebrugge fame. The Sanderstead Hall Association was formed in 1923 to manage the hall.

The hall is used as a facility for residents of Sanderstead and, subject to availability and proposed use, may be hired. It is used on a regular basis for various activities by several groups. These include:

 The Cavat School of Dance
 Castle Day Nursery
 Dog Training Class
 Beeches Badminton Club
 Sanderstead Hall Badminton Club

We are looking for volunteers to join our small committee. The duties are not onerous as we have an excellent Business Manager, Caroline Hubbard, who manages the hall on a daily basis. The small, volunteer committee meet twice a year to review the management of the hall and any refurbishments necessary. If you are a resident of Sanderstead and interested in finding out more please contact:
Caroline Hubbard on 07775 680087   or  Malcolm Saunders on 020 8657 1795

Malcolm Saunders – Committee Member

 

 


 

Roadworks at the bottom of Sanderstead Hill - delays possible
16/05/2018 09:47:00.......Posted by Lynne Hale

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The Council has advised the following:


“To facilitate patching works, Kier will have three way signals on Sanderstead Road on the junction with Farm Fields from 21st to 23rd May , 2018 between 9.30am and 3.30pm
This has been agreed during off peak hours to minimise the effect on the road network.”
 

 


 

Sanderstead Residents' Association AGM
11/05/2018 13:50:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley

 
 

The SRA AGM was held on Thursday, 10 May at All Saints' Church Hall.  I was pleased to attend with Cllr Lynne Hale, Cllr Tim Pollard and Cllr Helen Redfern, a newly elected councillor for the Purley Oaks and Riddlesdown Ward.  The lower end of Sanderstead, of which there are a number of members falls under her jurisdiction under the new boundary/ward changes.  The event is well supported by its members and our Safer Neighbourhood Police Team who give an update on crime and crime prevention in our locality.  A number of grants were made to various organisations including Neighbourhood Watch, Sanderstead Neighbourhood Care and Scouting groups as well as the South East Cancer Help Centre in Purley. Chris Philp MP gave a parliamentary update and the evening was rounded off with some beverages and snacks kindly provided by Waitrose.  The Association was formed in 1926 and long may it continue.  Well done to the committee and the executive for all the hard work and support they have given to residents.

 


 

10 Clyde Avenue, Sanderstead - Application Withdrawn
10/05/2018 17:08:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley

I am pleased to say that the application for fulll planning permission on the above site no. 17/05843/FUL has been withdrawn.  The application consisted of a two storey building on an area of land to rear of 10 Clyde Avenue, in association with the creation of four self contained (C3) residential flats with associated parking and bin stores.  It was a complete overdevelopment of the site so residents will be delighted.

 


 

Automatic Number Plate Recognition Visors
10/05/2018 09:08:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley

It would appear that when the 20mph zone was introduced in the borough the Automatic Number Plate Recognition Visors were not altered accordingly.  Most of these in the borough are still set to come on when speeds are over 30mph.  This has been brought to my attention by residents in Purley Downs Road.  I am informed that the ANPR's will be re-set to advise when drivers are exceeding the speed limits.  Residents have also informed me that slight road rage is occuring since the introduction of the limit on this fairly main road which is a bus route.  Drivers are either obeying the law and driving at 20mph or indeed ignoring it completing and over-taking drivers at great speed which is obviously quite dangerous.  I do hope that the introduction of this limitation doesn't cause more accidents as that clearly is not the intention.  Sadly, roads where the most accidents are occuring, such as the nasty one last week when a car came down Sanderstead Hill at speed landing in the garden of the dentist are not benefiting from any scheme to reduce the problem of speeding on this very busy and fast road.

 

 

 


 

Sanderstead Councillors Elected - Thank You
10/05/2018 09:01:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley

 
 

A very big thank you to all the residents who voted for myself and my fellow colleagues, Cllr Lynne Hale and Cllr Tim Pollard.  We all appreciate your support and look forward to serving you for another four years.  More details about the results are listed on the home page.  If you have any issues or concerns you want to discuss do get in touch.

 


 

Potholes
27/04/2018 08:30:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard

A few days ago I reported a bad area of road surface at the bottom of Mitchley Avenue by the junction with Lower Barn Road. As a result Keir were repairing the carriageway in Mitchley Avenue yesterday opposite the junction with Buttermere Gardens and are working towards repairing all the other pot holes identified. Engineers are assessing Mitchley Avenue for future patching works and I have asked that they update me on their intentions once the assessment has been undertaken. 

I also asked that a sunken area of Lime Meadow Avenue be looked at as I am worried that this indicates problems with the mains sewer underneath. This has now been marked for temporary repair and more detailed investigation. I did report this several years ago but apparently then it didn't cause concern - so I am (sort of) pleased that now it is being taken more seriously!

 


 

Sanderstead Court Avenue one-way
24/04/2018 19:04:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard

To facilitate emergency gas works outside number 2 Sanderstead Court Avenue, Southern Gas Networks have had to make the road one way from its junction with Limpsfield Road. The diversion for displaced traffic will be via Sanderstead Court Avenue/ Onslow Gardens/ Cranleigh Gardens/ Limpsfield Road. 


It is expected for the work to be completed by Tuesday 1st May.  I will post further updates if this changes.

 


 

Addington Road - Sapling Finally Planted
18/04/2018 18:02:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley

 
 

After a number of requests the damaged sapling on the Addington Road has finally been planted.  Street trees add such value and its pretty blossoms will soon form new growth.

 


 

Large Street Tree in Lower Barn Road
16/04/2018 11:50:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley

The council have promised that the large tree running alongside Riddlesdown Lawn Tennis Club is at last going to have a crown reduction.  The leaf fall is impacting one side of the tennis courts and needs a good prune.  The promise is to do the work within the next two months so fingers crossed!

 

 


 

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