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Cllr  Lynne  Hale
Cllr  Yvette  Hopley
Cllr  Tim  Pollard

Where's the plaque?
28/08/2015 12:38:00......Posted by Yvette Hopley


As part of the 50th anniversary of the formation of the London Borough of Croydon we were pleased to take one of the commemorative stones to mark the occasion.  This has been duly placed at the top end of Sanderstead pond.  Sadly, I have just found out that the original plaques were stolen from the council depot.  Residents were somewhat bemused by this new stone that appeared at Sanderstead pond with the only marking on it looking like some form of "Egyptian hieroglyphics".  It would have been sensible to ensure that the plaques were installed before placing the stones in their strategic locations.  I am informed by officers that new plaques will be attached to the stones within the next couple of weeks.  I hope they are securely fixed and cannot be easily removed.  We have suffered a number of metal thefts in the area including the war memorial plaques from the nearby Sanderstead church.

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Croydon Adult Social Services Users Panel
17/01/2019 20:00:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley

A great CASSUP meeting today to discuss direct payments and active lines along with the new way of working in localities.  Certainly direct payments can mean more independence, choice and control and we all want our residents with disabilities to have improved lives and better outcomes.  If you do know of residents wanting help in these areas please do get in touch with me and I can direct you to the right officers.  Your local conservative councillors will also be on hand to give you assistance and advice.



403 bus diversion latest - UPDATED
17/01/2019 09:43:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard

The ward team and Steve O'Connell, GLA Member, have continued to work with the local residents' associations to put pressure on TfL over the diversion to the 403 bus which means two miles of its route through Sanderstead receives no service.

This is the response from TfL, which I have considerable sympathy with:

As mentioned previously, the disruption is due to emergency gas works with multiple leaks having been identified on Selsdon Road at its junction with Croham Road. Croydon Council have contacted us last week to inform that in order to facilitate the works, they would need to put a directional closure in for all traffic heading southbound. Following on from this, our Network Traffic Controllers were tasked to investigate whether Brighton Road and Upland Road could be used to get the buses back to line of route on Selsdon Road. After detailed checks and risk assessments, we were advised that it would not be possible to use these roads as the buses would not be able to make the turn safely from Upland Road onto Selsdon Road.
We then enquired with the Council whether the diversion could be reversed, ie divert buses coming northbound, as this would have allowed us to use Junction Road which is much wider and could be used by buses. However, the Council advised that due to the location of the leaks this option would not be feasible.
As a result, the only diversion possible was the one that we have already put in place. This is due to low bridges on Selsdon Road, Sanderstead Road and Croham Road.
With regards to the specific suggestion to divert the buses via Croham Manor Road and Normanton Road, we have assessed this option however this is not feasible due to low trees, issues with parking and turning manoeuvres that would be required from Normanton Road onto Hurst Way or Hurstview Road and Croham Manor Road onto Selsdon Road.
With regards to supplying single deck buses, we have spoken to both operators for the 403 and 412 buses and they have confirmed that unfortunately there are no single deck buses available that could be used on the route, particularly on such short notice given the emergency works. Had these been planned works, we would look at potentially providing a shuttle service or single deck buses but these require some lead time to plan, organise, source and finance.  
We apologise again for the inconvenience this temporary disruption has caused. We have spoken with Croydon Council again this morning and reiterated the urgency and the problems that these works are causing and have asked them to ensure that the contractors are doing all they can to get these works completed as soon as possible.

Whilst it is very frustrating for passengers, I can see TfL's point of view here. I have been trying to get a response from the Council team that agrees works with the utility companies for over a week now, but they are not responding to my requests.

TfL believe that the works are now scheduled to come to an end on 20 Jan, which is better than we were first led to believe. I've driven past the site many times over the last week but regret to say I have yet to see anyone working on it. But we won't give up, we'll keep trying to get the council to take this more seriously than it seems to be at the moment.


4pm Thur 17 Jan

The officer co-ordinating the closure tells me:

Regarding the diversion, it was put in this way due to the proximity to the roundabout. If it had been a few meters back then we would have had the closure the other way and used Junction Road as the diversion for buses. We will keep this in mind if this situation is to happen again.

The extended duration of these works is due to a high number of leaks being discovered, 2 of which required specialist repair kits that had to be measured for each joint. I have spoken to SGN this morning and they have informed me they will be off the road Sunday night. I will be instructing them to liaise with Tfl buses to have the bus route / stops back to normally immediately following the road reopening.



Burglaries in Riddlesdown
16/01/2019 07:55:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard

Sadly there were four burglaries on the Sanderstead/Purley Oaks & Riddlesdown border over last weekend. I report it here from a Sanderstead perspective as I suspect criminals do not feel constrained by ward boundaries!

According to the local police team two were on Mitchley Avenue and two were on Ingleboro Drive. Access was gained via the rear of property. Various items were taken including jewellery and laptops. Two males aged 15-20 years old were seen hiding in a front garden bush on Ingleboro Drive when a resident called police, but both had run away prior to police arrival.
The SNT have responded by arranging for extra patrols in the area from a different unit, to boost the number of patrols.
The SNT say that side access and rear of the property are where homes can be vulnerable. Side gates should be secured with a lock/padlock that is not reached by learning your arm over. If the gate is 6ft tall you can consider trellis or intruder excluder spikes on top. Bins should be locked in behind the gate so they can't be used as a ladder. Rear fences should be secure and can also have intruder excluder or trellis on top as this is not easy for suspects to climb/gain access. Sheds should be secured and do not leave garden tools out that can be used to gain entry.

Here is a link to the SNT's crime prevention advice. There is good advice on locks, security and a walk around house showing what we recommend.



Diversion to 403 bus - UPDATE
15/01/2019 09:46:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard

Users of the 403 bus are quite rightly fuming about the decision to divert the route through Selsdon due to the collapsed sewer near the Croham Arms in South Croydon. Instead of doing a tight diversion to avoid the congestion there, the route has changed completely such that Selsdon Road, Carlton/Mayfield Road, Sanderstead Road and Sanderstead Hill get no service. To divert around a stretch of road covering 100 yards the diversion is running for over two miles. 

That surely can't be the best way to do it? We are pressing the council and TfL to think again and come up with a better plan. The works are scheduled to run until at least 25 Jan, so we think finding a way that enables bus users to carry on using the route should be a priority.

UPDATE 16/01/2019 - TfL now believe the diversion can be removed on Sunday 20th, which is clearly better than we had first been told. GLA Assembly Member Steve O'Connell is pressing them to be more creative in their thinking about future diversions. Whilst we accept that the repair is taking place in a difficult place, with double deckers unable to navigate a number of low bridges in the locality, it must have been possible to come up with a less disruptive diversion, perhaps by temporarily using single decker buses.



Bins Overflowing - Yew Tree Court
11/01/2019 17:53:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley


At the risk of sounding repetative, the bins at Yew Tree Court have not been collected since before Xmas.  This has been particularly distressing for our most vulnerable of residents in the assisted living home.  Some of the resident are in their 90's and are blind or have carers so struggle with the system of getting the refuse into the right bins but they are doing their best.  The problem is that because the bins haven't been collected for such a long time they are having to leave the additional refuse alongside  the wheeled bins for collection.  I went to to Yew Tree Court to speak to the manager and try to ensure that the missed collections were correctly registered as the address was coming up as not recorded on the council system for collections.  This has now been rectified and fingers crossed the refuse and recycling will be collected tomorrow.



Bins Overflowing - Montana Close
11/01/2019 17:47:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley


Yet again the bin stores at Montana Close are overflowing.  Since Xmas the bins stores have not been cleared by the refuse collection team.  Despite residents contacting the council and reporting on line it was only when the local councillors intervened on a number of occasions that the bins were finally cleared today.  Several weeks of refuse was becoming extremely smelly and unpleasant.  Once again I hope that normal service resumes.



Heathhurst Road Refuse Collections
11/01/2019 17:37:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley


Residents at a block of flats in Heathhurst Road have not had any collections since before Xmas.  Despite residents and the house manager constantly contacting the council the bins and refuse remained uncollected.  I contacted the council on several occasions and only today was the rubbish collected.  It seems that if the bins are overflowing, not fault of the residents, because collections have been missed the operators then refuse to empty the bins and take the extra rubbish.  I have asked that a normal service be resumed and we just hope that the residents don't have to suffer with decaying waste in front of their homes again.



People forced to dump waste at recycling centres
09/01/2019 09:38:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard


Croydon Council continues to fail to offer a reliable dooorstep collection service, so in desperation residents are taking their waste to the various neighbourhood recycling centres around the borough. There they often find the bins overflowing and incapable of taking any more. so they try to do the right thing and leave the waste next to the right bins rather than fly tip it. This was the scene at the recycling centre in Hamsey Green this morning, crammed bins and recyclable materials piled up everywhere, as a result of chaotic collection services over Christmas.

But be warned, even though the council is ultimately to blame for the service failures, it still believes it is entitled to pursue anyone who leaves materials anywhere other than fully inside a recycling container for fly tipping. Yes, that's right, if you leave your recycling next to full recycling container, the council thinks you're a fly tipper. A number of residents have been prosecuted by the council on this basis (where they have, for example, left a readable address label on a box) and there have been several high-profile campaigns to get it to see sense when pursuing someone who was trying hard to do the right thing. I think this is mad and the council should never be pursuing people who have tried hard to act responsibility but been let down by the council's inability to manage its services correctly.



Bus route consultation
07/01/2019 11:53:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard

Transport for London (TfL) is currently consulting on a number of changes to Croydon's bus routes and some of these particularly impct on Sanderstead. Should you have views on this, the  consultation website is at the following address: 

The email address for comments is - 

There is also a survey that can be completed but this is more useful if you are a regular user of a route as it does ask how often you use each individual service. 

I have quite a lot of concerns about the proposals, so have pasted below a summary of the feedback I have given TfL as a ward councillor:

Below are my comments as a ward councillor for an affected area and as the leader of the Conservative group on Croydon Council.

I have concerns over many of these proposals and will itemise some specific worries below. I would also make the general comment that many of the changes relating to the overall connection strategy for Croydon, and in particular the changes to connections in the town centre, seem likely to reduce the appeal of using buses for cross-borough journeys and are potentially discriminatory against people with any mobility limitation. Across public bodies we are being urged to incentivise the reduction in car usage and a well designed bus network with quick and easy transfers where no through route can be sustained are an important contributor to taking people out of their cars. I am most likely to take a bus where it takes me directly from where I am to where I want to go. I am less likely to do so if it involves a change and a second wait, but where the incoming and outgoing buses are at the same transfer point. i am least likely to take a bus where I have to walk a significant distance between arrival and departure points. That’s more of a problem in the winter when it is cold and wet, and even more so for people for whom walking is more difficult.

The consultation document says that accessing West Croydon or Croydon University Hospital can easily be achieved on routes such as the 60, 64, 109 and 198 by changing at mid-Croydon along Wellesley Road, but the incoming buses from the south of the borough terminate at Katharine Street (154, 403, 405 and 412) which is at least 100m away. For many residents this is not a show-stopper, but for some residents it may well be: and for all residents it is a chilly inconvenience which makes using the bus less attractive. 

Further, the termination of these southern routes at Katharine Street limits the appeal of using these buses to access the Whitgift Centre. It is a reasonably significant walk (750m) to get to Marks & Spencer (say) from Katharine Street, probably too much for many older or less mobile residents.

Sanderstead residents are most likely to use the 403 and 412 routes and this part of the borough is already low on bus provision. The 412 was reduced as a service on 1st September yet is the only route through the Riddlesdown area and the Elmfield Way area of South Croydon. The 403 runs from Warlingham and through Sanderstead where it intersects with the 412. The proposed changes, coupled with the reduction in service already suffered, can only result in reducing usage further and this might be used to justify a further reduction in the services in the future.

I know that colleagues with knowledge of the bus routes operating in other areas have similar concerns, so I would urge TfL to rethink the entire strategy focusing on Croydon to ensure that transitions are made easier, not harder, and that routes finish at the place residents are most likely to be trying to get to, rather than places which are most administratively convenient.



Sewer maintenance, Limpsfield Road
07/01/2019 09:49:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard

Last week there was significant traffic chaos due to the need for Thames Water to replace part of a failing sewer opposite Gresham School on Limpsfield Road. At the time we were advised that this would be in place until 25 Jan 2019, but then the traffic lights mysteriously disappeared. Today we learn that the works have been postponed pending a reschedule, and we'll be advised later of the new start time.

We will press for the works to be as short as possible and for the light control at peak hours to be manually controlled, that being the most likely way to minimise the jams that are inevitable.

I will post again when we have a new start time.



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